The Eglain Rep Grind

Like many of you out there, we decided we needed the World Renowned Horse on at least one of our characters. So who better than Izbaruk and Haki, the Lord and the Heir of the Khazad Guard to go out there and get it. Thanks to crafting, being completionist in zones and alot of grinding, we managed to do pretty well, until it got to the Eglain. We were both Friend, having got the retrospective Rep from there when the Lone Lands was revamped, and thought it would be pretty easy to get to Kindred from there. Being 57, we were far too high to do any of the tasks, which grant 300 rep each, and grinding the Weathertop skirmish was out, because we couldn’t level up without our mate Anlafski, having levelled all the way up as a Trio, and it would take a lot of them. What we needed was minimum XP with maximum rep. With most of the other factions this is pretty easy – grind a load of rep barterables on a high level alt, or if golds burning a hole in your pocket, hit the Auction Hall. There are a few other ways to earn the trust of the Eglain other than skirmishes, tasks and quests (especially running Garth Agarwen). All humanoid mobs (no animals or swarms) give 8 rep when killed, which doesn’t make much of a dent when you’re grinding rep, but probably adds up when your on level questing around there and doing deeds (such as Orcs for Valour, always nice). Theres also bounty quests in Ost Haer in Harloeg which are repeatable three times, give about 500 rep each and you get a couple of Ruby Shards too.

We did those ones and were still a good chunk short of Kindred, so we thought rather than try more GA’s we’d have a go at the crafting quest ones. You can collect them for each craft you have (sorry Explorers, you’re stuck with just Tailor ones). The chain starts at Dol Vaeg, where you have to craft something and deliver it to Ost Guruth. This then opens up the chance of repeating the crafting quests for rep, which you can do as many times as you like, but be warned – you have to purchase each of these quests which cost around 21 silver (the price may fluctuate – remember you get vendor discount depending on your standing with the faction). You get 700 rep for each one, and get about 11 silver back as a quest reward. At this point we were just into Ally, so thought it would save a lot of time grinding if we just crafted our way from there. Adam started first, and as a Jeweller he could buy both the Jeweller and Cook quests, but decided to just go with the Cook ones so he didn’t have to use up a lot of ore. The quests are Expert level ones, so great if you want to get craft XP, but as anyone who has a Jeweller will know, you want to hoard that gold ore!

I sent him the veg he needed from an alt ( Yellow Onions and Taters) and he topped up by buying a stack on the Auction hall for about 20 silver, and after about 20-30 mins he was all done and Kindred. I thought that was pretty good so I did that too. My character Haki is an Explorer, so I could only buy the Tailor quest – make 6 Sturdy leather bindings. I thought this would be easy, I had over 600 hides sat on an alt, so I transferred them over and set to work. Of course, 600 hides turn into 300 leather (I’m not factoring in crits here, its by no means an exact science). You need 6 sturdy leather bindings for each quest hand in, and you use 2 leather for each one, so those 3oo hides I had actually equated to 25 quest hand ins, or 17500 rep, and 525 silver to complete. I was still only just over half way through Ally, and had gone through 600 Sturdy Hides. Rather than grind a butt load of hides, because I was being lazy and it was close to Midnight, and it had become a matter of principle that I had to get Kindred that day, I ventured to the AH. Man, hides and ore are expensive – and I came away a few gold poorer than when I went in, but at least I had enough hides to complete. Of course I had to wait about an hour while I processed the hides and crafted the bindings but eventually I handed in the last one and eventually got Kindred – at last! Now we just have to wait until we get into Enedwaith and get rep with the Algraig and Grey Company to reach the end and the Steed of Eriador.

But this got me thinking what other crafts had to do to get rep with the Eglain - I know from Adam crafting the Cook quests was a fairly quick, cheap and painless way of getting it (half an hour to my several hours, and fruit and veg is ridiculously cheap on the Auction compared to ore and hides, but then again it is a lot easier to get a stack of them. I know when I was trying to get juicy strawberries for my scholar in about half an hour I had over 400 strawberries and 8 juicies), but what did the other Crafts have to produce? Did they need to spend more on their items to get the same outcome? Is it worth it, and which is the best craft to have to get rep for the Eglain in this way? I set about investigating this, and have made a table so you can all see exactly what is needed.

Craft Item No. Requires From Vendor Cost from Vendor Useable Crit
Woodworker Yew Fishing Pole 1 8x Yew Logs 4x Wax, 1x Sturdy Leather Wrap 4.96 silver No
Metalsmith Steel Prospectors Tool 1 10x Rich Iron Ore 5x Lump Coal, 1x Short Yew Shaft 16 silver No
Weaponsmith Basic Lure Trap 3 3x Bundle Straw 3x Long Yew Shaft, 3x Short Yew Shaft 24 silver Yes
Scholar Minor Foe Finder 8 16x Faded Sindarin Pages 8x Quill and Ink Set 19.20 silver Yes
Cook Hearty Onion Soup 2 2x Yellow Onions, 2x Green Onions, 2x Taters 2x Lamb Kidney, 2x Bottle of Water 2.88 silver Yes
Jeweller Ruby Ring 1 1x Polished Ruby, 8x Gold Ore No
Tailor Sturdy Leather Bindings 6 24x Sturdy Leather Hides Yes

This table shows what it takes each craft vocation to produce for one quest only, which grants 700 Rep. I have also broken these down to the individual crafts and just what it takes in the real sense to get any decent chunk of Rep. Where I have said no to critical success items being used in the quests, this is because these produce superior items which are not required by the Eglain, they want basic stuff and lots of it. So those of you who have crafts which apply to this, make sure you have a little extra of the resources to accommodate for this. Those with crafts which on a critical success produce a higher quantity of the item rather than a single superior item, great! You can get away with a little less of the resources. I have broken this down further into the relevant crafts, so you can see just what you may be getting yourselves in for. Please note all prices are in silver, and the cost that I paid per quest was 21.50 silver, but this may be a little higher depending on your current standing and vendor discounts, and all vendor prices are the standard ones – remember to buy local if you have a house or a member of a Kin with Kinhouse.

Woodworker:

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 8x Yew Logs, 4x Wax, 1x Sturdy Leather Wrapping 4.96 11.50 14.96
3500 5 107.50 40x Yew Logs, 20x Wax, 5x Sturdy Leather Wrappings 24.80 57.50 74.80
7000 10 215 80xYew Logs, 40x Wax, 10x Sturdy Leather Wrappings 49.60 115 149.60
10500 15 322.5 120x Yew Logs, 60x Wax, 15 x Sturdy Leather Wrappings 74.4 172.5 224.4

Metalworker:

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 10x Rich Iron Ore, 5x Lump Coal, 1x Short Yew Shaft 16 11.50 26
3500 5 107.50 50x Rich Iron Ore, 25x Lump Coal, 5x Short Yew Shaft 80 57.50 130
7000 10 215 100x Rich Iron Ore, 50x Lump Coal, 10x Short Yew Shaft 160 115 260
10500 15 322.50 150x Rich Iron Ore, 75x Lump Coal, 15x Short Yew Shaft 240 172.50 390

Weaponsmith :

You need straw, and plenty of it! Straw is a random drop from grain farms only, so good luck!

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 3x Bundle of Straw, 3x Long Yew Shaft, 3x Short Yew Shaft 24 11.50 34
3500 5 107.50 15x Bundle of Straw, 15x Long Yew Shaft, 15x Short Yew Shaft 120 57.50 170
7000 10 215 30x Bundle of Straw, 30x Long Yew Shaft, 30x Short Yew Shaft 240 115 340
10500 15 322.50 45x Bundle of Straw, 45x Long Yew Shaft, 45x Short Yew Shaft 360 172.50 510

Scholar :

Yikes! Good luck getting those Sindarin Pages! My advice is to go and farm a load of oats, get the Straw from your farms and go with Weaponsmith.

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 16x Faded Sindarin Pages, 8x Quill and Ink Set 19.20 11.50 29.20
3500 5 107.50 80x Faded Sindarin Pages, 40x Quill and Ink Sets 96 57.50 146
7000 10 215 160x Faded Sindarin Pages, 80x Quill and Ink Sets 192 115 292
10500 15 322.50 240x Faded Sindarin Pages, 120x Quill and Ink Sets 288 172.50 438

Cook:

Aaaaah, a friendly Farmer or a cheap shop at the Auction, and you’re home and dry!

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 2x Yellow Onions, 2x Green Onions, 2x Taters2x Lamb Kidney2x Bottle of Water 2.88 11.50 12.88
3500 5 107.50 10x Yellow Onions, 10x Green Onions, 10x Taters10x Lamb Kidney10x Bottle of Water 14.40 57.50 64.40
7000 10 215 20x Yellow Onions, 20x Green Onions, 20x Taters20x Lamb Kidney20x Bottle of Water 28.80 115 128.80
10500 15 322.50 30x Yellow Onions, 30x Green Onions, 30x Taters30x Lamb Kidney30x Bottle of Water 43.20 172.50 193.20

Jeweller:

Ooooooh - all that gold! You’ll need to be a veritable Smaug for this one. You sure you don’t want to cook?

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 1x Polished Ruby, 8x Gold Ore 11.50 10
3500 5 107.50 5x Polished Ruby, 40x Gold Ore 57.50 50
7000 10 215 10x Polished Ruby, 80x Gold Ore 115 100
10500 15 322.50 15x Polished Ruby, 120x Gold Ore 172.50 150

Tailor:

You need serious amounts of hides for this – time to do the Warg deed?

Rep Quests Quest Cost Total Ingredients Required Vendor Cost Quest Reward Monetary Outlay
700 1 21.50 24x Sturdy Leather Hides 11.50 10
3500 5 107.50 130x Sturdy Leather Hides 57.50 50
7000 10 215 260x Sturdy Leather Hides 115 100
10500 15 322.50 390x Sturdy Leather Hides 172.50 150

My conclusion from all this is; don’t use this method of getting Rep unless your vault is stuffed to the rafters with your crafts expert level resources and you have a healthy bank balance. If you really want the Rep, take a little time to see how much you need and try to take all your resources with you – remember Ost Guruth only has the basic crafting facilities and vendors, no vault access and no Auction Hall, so you may not be able to get everything you need on site.

Hope this helps!

Emma

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Posted on February 14, 2011, in Crafting, Game Ideas and Suggestions, Games Guides and Advice, Thoughts and Musings. Bookmark the permalink. 9 Comments.

  1. thanks for working all this out :)

    i’ve managed Kindred on two chars now: one i wanted World Renowned on, and a low level alt that i just wanted a decent horse for.

    both chars were cooks – the alt specifically chosen so that Eglain rep was easy – so it was fast and painless. I agree though, that if you *dont* have cook as a craft *and* dont have access to huge piles of crafting mats, that getting to Kindred with the Eglain through crafting is probably not the best idea.

    i’ll add however, that i faced precisely the same problem with Thorin’s Hall rep: although my wannabe-World Renowned character is a Tinker (thus jeweller, thus can craft for TH rep); there simply was no Ancient Silver available, and it was way faster for my to grind out the rep items in Sarnur than it was to prospect Ancient Silver.

    short version: crafting to Kindred is only ever a good idea if you have access to a plentiful and cheap supply of mats.

    • Totally agree – we got Kindred with Thorins Hall grinding Sarnur, just really wanted the Prize goat. Every other alt I have basically just saved enough rep items to hand in to get aquaintance so can use the superior workbenches in the Garrison craft area rather than head to Esteldin (when they are pre-Moria of course) My first character was a jeweller so started that way, but gave up after a while, not going to use Ancient Silver and Platinum in those quantities with a legion of alts to equip.

  2. Wow, those are some nasty ones for gathering! I did it recently as a tailor which wasn’t all that bad – farming sturdy hides at your level (or I was at 65) is rather quick and painless.

  3. Thanks for all that, grinding my way with cooking, which I didn’t touch at all so far. I’m really glad that farming doesn’t require any fancy quests or faraway gathering, so a level 8 alt does all the planting, and my main the cooking.

  4. This is a fantastic guide. Eglain rep is uniquely annoying, and this will really help me get several of my alts to Kindred with them. I spent at least an hour yesterday morning farming winter barley for bundles of straw, then using them to craft and deliver lure traps for these people. It bothers me that I have to pay them to give them free traps, but so it goes. I want that beautiful horse, hehe.

    Then I check my LotRO bookmarks tonight and I find this wonderful guide to Eglain rep. I thought I was the only one who found all this… strange. So thanks so much for all the research you must have done to make up those tables, they are very, very helpful.

    • thank you, and all you other guys for such a lovely response. I agree Emma did a superb job on this and it is very handy to help pre-prepare, now I better pull my act together and write something good!

      Adam

  5. I will be credited with personally bringing about the extinction of the North Downs Aurochs by the time I’ve reached Kindred with these folks! But the Eglain need their sturdy leather bindings, and who am I to argue?

    Thanks for the guide!

  6. A little tip if you’re a Scholar trying to craft your way to kindred: Iorvinas, the ruin filled with dwarves and orcs in the Lone-lands, has a plentyful supply of Antique Vases. Unless the mobs are grey to you, once you’ve run through the ruin and gathered all the ingredients from the vases, there are new vases where you started off.

    So basically it’s a quick and easy way to get vases, as it never runs dry and the mobs are fairly easy to defeat.

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